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I haven't tried Keyscape in mono - now I'm wondering how well the pianos hold up? Also, Gullfoss does some kind of magic that helps focus the overall stereo image. dialing in some mono-maker on tightens up ACD presets. Phasing issues that are clearly revealed in mono may also be subtly present in stereo.Ĭlose-mic'd pianos tend to be better in this regard in Garritan CFX I mute the ambient mics completely and add my own ambiences later.īX Control v2 is nice for testing and resolving phasing issues. The sampled digital pianos that work best for me are generally those that collapse more gracefully from stereo to mono. It just has to be done well,and it's a challenge worth accepting. But I don't agree that the advantage of the real thing disappears once recorded. And in many cases a bad real recording will be worse than a virtual piano. To be accurate you should say it *attempts* to model these things.Īnd yes recording real piano is very difficult and often when the piano is to be mixed in with other things, virtual is completely acceptable. It's not as deep as Pianoteq, but it does have numerous settings for the physical properties of the emulation - string resonance, cabinet resonance, key off resonance, soundboard behavior, hammer noise, hammer response, duplex scale, damper noise, damper resonance, and more.Yes I have used pianoteq since version 1, and it sounds fake in its own way. I have a Roland HP704, which uses their SuperNatural Piano Modeling engine for its grand piano. The point is (and I 100% agree with Philter) regardless of all the technical features you mention and and regardless of how developed those features are said to be, VSTi pianos are not even close to the satisfaction of playing a real piano. Modeled pianos like Pianoteq (which model the actual physical properties and aren't based on samples) do include all of the details you mentioned. But there are some very good sample-based pianos that I really enjoy playing (some of NI's pianos are excellent), and sampling isn't the only way to simulate a piano. I can't defend Keyscape here - I use and love it for its electric pianos, but agree that its acoustic pianos aren't great. It's not as deep as Pianoteq, but it does have numerous settings for the physical properties of the emulation - string resonance, cabinet resonance, key off resonance, soundboard behavior, hammer noise, hammer response, duplex scale, damper noise, damper resonance, and more.
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The samples posted in this thread all sound awful compared to even a rudimentary recording of a real piano.I can't defend Keyscape here - I use and love it for its electric pianos, but agree that its acoustic pianos aren't great. The sampling modeling doesn't do anything more than a pale ghost of that. The sympathetic vibrations, the way one string sets another ringing, sympathetic resonances, the soundboard and the wood itself ringing, in three dimensions with infinite variations of velocity. The problem is the harmonic content is not there. We offer factory qualified repairs and private lesson programs.This is a very long post and I thank you for taking the time to think it through, but frankly velocity curves are midi 101 and after some 30 years of using midi I would be really bad if I hadn't thought of that. Buy used, new, and vintage musical instruments from a trusted source. ☰ Navigation Randee's Music Premier music store featuring the finest guitars and pianos.